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hello again.
another question: I saw a post of ejabbered forum that basically says
that ejabbered is already has capability to have video/audio chat and
it's just up to the client.
Sounds good, but what clients have this capability?
also, I looked at wildfire xmpp server and they recently released a beta
plugin that uses Red5 server to provide video/audio chat capabilities.
So, why does wildfire need Red5 for this to work and ejabbered does not?
I mean, they both use the same xmpp protocol, or does ejabbered has some
extra functionality for video/audio chat?
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:48 pm |
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On 2/27/07, Dmitri <project1@sharedlog.com> wrote:
> another question: I saw a post of ejabbered forum that basically says
> that ejabbered is already has capability to have video/audio chat and
> it's just up to the client.
> Sounds good, but what clients have this capability?
Coccinella e.g. has audio chat support, and if you really want video
chat in Coccinella, I'm pretty sure you can pay the author to
implement it.
> also, I looked at wildfire xmpp server and they recently released a beta
> plugin that uses Red5 server to provide video/audio chat capabilities.
> So, why does wildfire need Red5 for this to work and ejabbered does not?
I don't know why they need Red5. I guess it is just some marketing feature.
> I mean, they both use the same xmpp protocol, or does ejabbered has some
> extra functionality for video/audio chat?
video/audio chat is P2P between the clients, so nothing special in
your Jabber server is needed.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:54 pm |
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Sander Devrieze wrote:
> On 2/27/07, Dmitri <project1@sharedlog.com> wrote:
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>> another question: I saw a post of ejabbered forum that basically says
>> that ejabbered is already has capability to have video/audio chat and
>> it's just up to the client.
>> Sounds good, but what clients have this capability?
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> Coccinella e.g. has audio chat support, and if you really want video
> chat in Coccinella, I'm pretty sure you can pay the author to
> implement it.
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>> also, I looked at wildfire xmpp server and they recently released a beta
>> plugin that uses Red5 server to provide video/audio chat capabilities.
>> So, why does wildfire need Red5 for this to work and ejabbered does not?
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> I don't know why they need Red5. I guess it is just some marketing
> feature.
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>> I mean, they both use the same xmpp protocol, or does ejabbered has some
>> extra functionality for video/audio chat?
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> video/audio chat is P2P between the clients, so nothing special in
> your Jabber server is needed.
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Thank you. I'll check that coccinella. I've never heard of it before.
as far as marketing feature, I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean to
make people buy red5 server?
I don't think so because red5 is open source and free.
maybe it makes a video look better? I mean, it is a streaming server for
flash.
actually the red5 even includes a sample video chat program in it, so it
can be used for video chat without xmpp, it even has a group video chat
for up to 12 people.
I think a red5 plugin makes it possible to use a user database from
jabber server and jabber client and red5 for streaming?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:31 pm |
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Dmitri wrote:
> also, I looked at wildfire xmpp server and they recently released a beta
> plugin that uses Red5 server to provide video/audio chat capabilities.
> So, why does wildfire need Red5 for this to work and ejabbered does not?
> I mean, they both use the same xmpp protocol, or does ejabbered has some
> extra functionality for video/audio chat?
there is no way to establish p2p connections between flash clients.
where a google talk (jingle) audio chat uses direct client to client
communication, flash needs always a server in between. i guess the red5
plugin is used to stream audio and video over rtmp.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:26 pm |
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oliver oli wrote:
>Dmitri wrote:
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>>also, I looked at wildfire xmpp server and they recently released a beta
>>plugin that uses Red5 server to provide video/audio chat capabilities.
>>So, why does wildfire need Red5 for this to work and ejabbered does not?
>>I mean, they both use the same xmpp protocol, or does ejabbered has some
>>extra functionality for video/audio chat?
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>there is no way to establish p2p connections between flash clients.
>where a google talk (jingle) audio chat uses direct client to client
>communication, flash needs always a server in between. i guess the red5
>plugin is used to stream audio and video over rtmp.
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I also understand that with red5 plugin for wildfire it's possible to
have a 'chat room' (multichat) where several people using webcams and
everybody can see everybody (up to 12 clients per room as of now)
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:40 pm |
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oliver oli wrote:
>Dmitri wrote:
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>>also, I looked at wildfire xmpp server and they recently released a beta
>>plugin that uses Red5 server to provide video/audio chat capabilities.
>>So, why does wildfire need Red5 for this to work and ejabbered does not?
>>I mean, they both use the same xmpp protocol, or does ejabbered has some
>>extra functionality for video/audio chat?
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>there is no way to establish p2p connections between flash clients.
>where a google talk (jingle) audio chat uses direct client to client
>communication, flash needs always a server in between. i guess the red5
>plugin is used to stream audio and video over rtmp.
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it would be very cool if someone wrote the same plugin for ejabberd.
I understand that wildfire plugin includes a complete red5 server in the
plugin, so you don't need to have Red5 installed in order to use this
plugin.
both Red5 and wildfire are written in java, so maybe that makes it easy
to combine these two. I just hope to see the same plugin for ejabberd.
Maybe there is a way to utilize an already installed Red5 for ejabberd?
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:55 am |
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On 3/2/07, Dmitri <project1@sharedlog.com> wrote:
> I also understand that with red5 plugin for wildfire it's possible to
> have a 'chat room' (multichat) where several people using webcams and
> everybody can see everybody (up to 12 clients per room as of now)
AFAIK someone already did the same using ejabberd *without* Flash or
something special at the server. Also note that you already can watch
movies in MUC rooms using Coccinella's whiteboard...nothing special
needed on the server.
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