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Hi,
Is there a Open Source Sigtran stack developed preferably in Erlang? I mean
actively developing and not a stale project. Anybody planning to do such
thing?
If there's none, I am interested to know how many of you would want somebody
to make this initiative? If the interest level is high, I might be able to
convince the relevant people in my office to Open Source the Sigtran stack
we're developing. Let me know your interest.
BRgds,
- Eranga
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| BruceFitzsimons |
| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:51 am |
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Eranga Udesh wrote:
> If there's none, I am interested to know how many of you would want somebody
> to make this initiative? If the interest level is high, I might be able to
> convince the relevant people in my office to Open Source the Sigtran stack
> we're developing. Let me know your interest.
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An opensource Erlang SIGTRAN stack would be excellent. Are you thinking
the full set (M2UA/M2PA/M3UA/SUA/IUA) or a subset? M3UA and SUA would be
most useful for the applications I see on a daily basis.
Regards,
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:28 am |
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Thanks for your response.
Initially it'll be a subset of the full Sigtran stack (M2PA & M3UA). However
the development plan is for the full stack. Are you already using M3UA and
SUA stacks? Are they in Erlang or licensed from a 3rd party?
BRgds,
- Eranga
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From: Bruce Fitzsimons [mailto:Bruce@Fitzsimons.org]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:20 PM
To: Eranga Udesh
Cc: erlang-questions@erlang.org
Subject: Re: [erlang-questions] Open Source ErlSigtran
Eranga Udesh wrote:
> If there's none, I am interested to know how many of you would want
somebody
> to make this initiative? If the interest level is high, I might be able to
> convince the relevant people in my office to Open Source the Sigtran stack
> we're developing. Let me know your interest.
>
An opensource Erlang SIGTRAN stack would be excellent. Are you thinking
the full set (M2UA/M2PA/M3UA/SUA/IUA) or a subset? M3UA and SUA would be
most useful for the applications I see on a daily basis.
Regards,
Bruce
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| anders_n |
| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:40 pm |
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On 10/29/07, Eranga Udesh <casper2000a@omnibis.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a Open Source Sigtran stack developed preferably in Erlang? I mean
> actively developing and not a stale project. Anybody planning to do such
> thing?
>
> If there's none, I am interested to know how many of you would want somebody
> to make this initiative? If the interest level is high, I might be able to
> convince the relevant people in my office to Open Source the Sigtran stack
> we're developing. Let me know your interest.
>
Yes, we are interested. Assuming it is a license that allows commercial use.
/Anders
> BRgds,
> - Eranga
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| bbmaj7 |
| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:51 pm |
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--- Anders Nygren <anders.nygren@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is there a Open Source Sigtran stack developed preferably in Erlang? I mean
> > actively developing and not a stale project. Anybody planning to do such
> > thing?
> >
> > If there's none, I am interested to know how many of you would want
> somebody
> > to make this initiative? If the interest level is high, I might be able to
> > convince the relevant people in my office to Open Source the Sigtran stack
> > we're developing. Let me know your interest.
> >
>
> Yes, we are interested. Assuming it is a license that allows commercial use.
It wouldn't be open source if it did not [1].
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[1] http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php
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| anders_n |
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:11 am |
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On 10/29/07, Richard Andrews <bbmaj7@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> --- Anders Nygren <anders.nygren@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Is there a Open Source Sigtran stack developed preferably in Erlang? I mean
> > > actively developing and not a stale project. Anybody planning to do such
> > > thing?
> > >
> > > If there's none, I am interested to know how many of you would want
> > somebody
> > > to make this initiative? If the interest level is high, I might be able to
> > > convince the relevant people in my office to Open Source the Sigtran stack
> > > we're developing. Let me know your interest.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, we are interested. Assuming it is a license that allows commercial use.
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>
> It wouldn't be open source if it did not [1].
>
I do not want to get into a license war but are You trying to tell me that
-LGPL
-BSD
-MIT
-Apache
etc etc
are NOT open source licenses?
see http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical
/Anders
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> [1] http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php
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| Guest |
| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:35 am |
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"Commercial" is an awful term to use when discussing software.
1) Open Source/Free Software explicitly requires that it is possible to sell the software product, so long as the source code is available, modifiable, and redistributable. So, in that sense, it "allows commercial use."
2) However, many Free Software licenses don't allow a downstream developer to use the software in a traditional proprietary package (or any use that doesn't meet the requirements above). So, in that sense, it "doesn't allow commercial use."
What I understand is that Anders wants #1, and Richard is saying he will offer #2. They are not in conflict, if I am correct.
I hope this helps clarify things,
--
Michael FIG <fig@marketelsystems.com>, PMP
MarkeTel Multi-Line Dialing Systems, Ltd.
Phone: (306) 359-6893 ext. 528
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From: "Anders Nygren" <anders.nygren@gmail.com>
To: "Richard Andrews" <bbmaj7@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: erlang-questions@erlang.org
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:09:46 PM (GMT-0600) America/Guatemala
Subject: Re: [erlang-questions] Open Source ErlSigtran
On 10/29/07, Richard Andrews <bbmaj7@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> --- Anders Nygren <anders.nygren@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Is there a Open Source Sigtran stack developed preferably in Erlang? I mean
> > > actively developing and not a stale project. Anybody planning to do such
> > > thing?
> > >
> > > If there's none, I am interested to know how many of you would want
> > somebody
> > > to make this initiative? If the interest level is high, I might be able to
> > > convince the relevant people in my office to Open Source the Sigtran stack
> > > we're developing. Let me know your interest.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, we are interested. Assuming it is a license that allows commercial use.
>
>
> It wouldn't be open source if it did not [1].
>
I do not want to get into a license war but are You trying to tell me that
-LGPL
-BSD
-MIT
-Apache
etc etc
are NOT open source licenses?
see http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical
/Anders
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> [1] http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:33 am |
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You are quite right. To my understanding,
GPL like licenses wants the ISV or VARs, who uses the GPL licensed product
to distribute their own product under GPL. Otherwise there's provision to
buy commercial license. License cost is most of the time a fraction of a
fully commercialized product.
Also there's Apache/Apple like licenses which allow to distribute your
product commercially/closed source, while the Open Source product must be
distribute in source code version with the license attached.
Both model are highly successful. Under 1st model there're project driving
companies, hence faster development and support, while in the 2nd case it's
most of the time like communities.
- Eranga
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Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:01 AM
To: Anders Nygren
Cc: erlang-questions@erlang.org
Subject: Re: [erlang-questions] Open Source ErlSigtran
"Commercial" is an awful term to use when discussing software.
1) Open Source/Free Software explicitly requires that it is possible to sell
the software product, so long as the source code is available, modifiable,
and redistributable. So, in that sense, it "allows commercial use."
2) However, many Free Software licenses don't allow a downstream developer
to use the software in a traditional proprietary package (or any use that
doesn't meet the requirements above). So, in that sense, it "doesn't allow
commercial use."
What I understand is that Anders wants #1, and Richard is saying he will
offer #2. They are not in conflict, if I am correct.
I hope this helps clarify things,
--
Michael FIG <fig@marketelsystems.com>, PMP
MarkeTel Multi-Line Dialing Systems, Ltd.
Phone: (306) 359-6893 ext. 528
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Nygren" <anders.nygren@gmail.com>
To: "Richard Andrews" <bbmaj7@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: erlang-questions@erlang.org
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:09:46 PM (GMT-0600) America/Guatemala
Subject: Re: [erlang-questions] Open Source ErlSigtran
On 10/29/07, Richard Andrews <bbmaj7@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> --- Anders Nygren <anders.nygren@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Is there a Open Source Sigtran stack developed preferably in Erlang? I
mean
> > > actively developing and not a stale project. Anybody planning to do
such
> > > thing?
> > >
> > > If there's none, I am interested to know how many of you would want
> > somebody
> > > to make this initiative? If the interest level is high, I might be
able to
> > > convince the relevant people in my office to Open Source the Sigtran
stack
> > > we're developing. Let me know your interest.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, we are interested. Assuming it is a license that allows commercial
use.
>
>
> It wouldn't be open source if it did not [1].
>
I do not want to get into a license war but are You trying to tell me that
-LGPL
-BSD
-MIT
-Apache
etc etc
are NOT open source licenses?
see http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical
/Anders
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> [1] http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:05 pm |
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You are incorrect. As copyright holder you can release code under
multiple licenses, for example mysql, they control of the copyright
for the project and thus release it under the gpl as well as a
commercial license, when someone contributes to them they require the
patch be given the copyright. The only advantage of an apple like
license is it states some of this up front, where as an apache license
allows anyone to roll it into a closed program. I tend to think the
gpl allows for the maximum amount of freedom for the users and if you
want to sell propitiatory licenses its easy if you are the copyright
holder.
Mog
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