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Hey guys,
We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system. Ideally, I would
like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
time that provide this kind of integration?
I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
"org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java API
(rabbit included)?
Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
Dave
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Hi David
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au> wrote:
>
> We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
> alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system.
Excellent 
Do you have any non-Java cases too? Or are you currently thinking of
a Java2Java messaging set-up?
[ I ask because we've just released a .NET client, which will interop
with Java over AMQP, plus of course the STOMP and HTTP clients seem
useful to Java users. ]
> Ideally, I would
> like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
> supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
> implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
This is eminently sensible.
> My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
> time that provide this kind of integration?
Not yet.. We did look at it, and it seems like a refactoring of the
Spring messaging classes using RabbitMQ's Java client, would be
straightforward.
> I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
> wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
> within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
That would be extremely welcome!
I am cc'ing some potentially interested parties.
> A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
> interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
> there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
> "org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java API
> (rabbit included)?
Yes. The AMQP Working Group believes that a client API could be
useful, for example a set of Java interface classes in a package
org.amqp.*
What do you think of the RabbitMQ Java and C# APIs?
> Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
It's a pleasure.
alexis
>
>
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Hi,
I started integrating the communication with RabbitMQ server using Spring
2.5. I use the Qpid M1 java client to do that because it provides the JMS
Interface usable by the Spring JMS classes.
This configuration allows the usage of MessageListenerAdapter,
MessageListenerContainer, JmsGateway, ...
I hope that one day we will have a full amqp spring template... 
Sebastien
On 2/21/08 5:19 AM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis.richardson@cohesiveft.com>
wrote:
> Hi David
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
> wrote:
>>
>> We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
>> alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system.
>
> Excellent
>
> Do you have any non-Java cases too? Or are you currently thinking of
> a Java2Java messaging set-up?
>
> [ I ask because we've just released a .NET client, which will interop
> with Java over AMQP, plus of course the STOMP and HTTP clients seem
> useful to Java users. ]
>
>
>> Ideally, I would
>> like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
>> supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
>> implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
>
> This is eminently sensible.
>
>
>> My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
>> time that provide this kind of integration?
>
> Not yet.. We did look at it, and it seems like a refactoring of the
> Spring messaging classes using RabbitMQ's Java client, would be
> straightforward.
>
>
>> I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
>> wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
>> within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
>
> That would be extremely welcome!
>
> I am cc'ing some potentially interested parties.
>
>
>
>> A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
>> interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
>> there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
>> "org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java API
>> (rabbit included)?
>
> Yes. The AMQP Working Group believes that a client API could be
> useful, for example a set of Java interface classes in a package
> org.amqp.*
>
> What do you think of the RabbitMQ Java and C# APIs?
>
>
>> Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
>
> It's a pleasure.
>
> alexis
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
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>> rabbitmq-discuss@lists.rabbitmq.com
>> http://lists.rabbitmq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rabbitmq-discuss
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:48 pm |
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Hi Sebastien
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Sebastien PLISSON <splisson@veodia.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I started integrating the communication with RabbitMQ server using Spring
> 2.5. I use the Qpid M1 java client to do that because it provides the JMS
> Interface usable by the Spring JMS classes.
> This configuration allows the usage of MessageListenerAdapter,
> MessageListenerContainer, JmsGateway, ...
Thanks for that
Could you show us any of your client classes or config files?
> I hope that one day we will have a full amqp spring template...
David, over to you!
alexis
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi David
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
> >> alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system.
> >
> > Excellent
> >
> > Do you have any non-Java cases too? Or are you currently thinking of
> > a Java2Java messaging set-up?
> >
> > [ I ask because we've just released a .NET client, which will interop
> > with Java over AMQP, plus of course the STOMP and HTTP clients seem
> > useful to Java users. ]
> >
> >
> >> Ideally, I would
> >> like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
> >> supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
> >> implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
> >
> > This is eminently sensible.
> >
> >
> >> My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
> >> time that provide this kind of integration?
> >
> > Not yet.. We did look at it, and it seems like a refactoring of the
> > Spring messaging classes using RabbitMQ's Java client, would be
> > straightforward.
> >
> >
> >> I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
> >> wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
> >> within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
> >
> > That would be extremely welcome!
> >
> > I am cc'ing some potentially interested parties.
> >
> >
> >
> >> A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
> >> interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
> >> there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
> >> "org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java API
> >> (rabbit included)?
> >
> > Yes. The AMQP Working Group believes that a client API could be
> > useful, for example a set of Java interface classes in a package
> > org.amqp.*
> >
> > What do you think of the RabbitMQ Java and C# APIs?
> >
> >
> >> Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
> >
> > It's a pleasure.
> >
> > alexis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rabbitmq-discuss mailing list
> >> rabbitmq-discuss@lists.rabbitmq.com
> >> http://lists.rabbitmq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rabbitmq-discuss
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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I attached a sample spring configuration.
Sebastien
On 2/21/08 7:48 AM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis.richardson@cohesiveft.com>
wrote:
> Hi Sebastien
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Sebastien PLISSON <splisson@veodia.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I started integrating the communication with RabbitMQ server using Spring
>> 2.5. I use the Qpid M1 java client to do that because it provides the JMS
>> Interface usable by the Spring JMS classes.
>> This configuration allows the usage of MessageListenerAdapter,
>> MessageListenerContainer, JmsGateway, ...
>
> Thanks for that
>
> Could you show us any of your client classes or config files?
>
>
>> I hope that one day we will have a full amqp spring template...
>
> David, over to you!
>
> alexis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi David
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
>>>> alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system.
>>>
>>> Excellent
>>>
>>> Do you have any non-Java cases too? Or are you currently thinking of
>>> a Java2Java messaging set-up?
>>>
>>> [ I ask because we've just released a .NET client, which will interop
>>> with Java over AMQP, plus of course the STOMP and HTTP clients seem
>>> useful to Java users. ]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ideally, I would
>>>> like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
>>>> supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
>>>> implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
>>>
>>> This is eminently sensible.
>>>
>>>
>>>> My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
>>>> time that provide this kind of integration?
>>>
>>> Not yet.. We did look at it, and it seems like a refactoring of the
>>> Spring messaging classes using RabbitMQ's Java client, would be
>>> straightforward.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
>>>> wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
>>>> within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
>>>
>>> That would be extremely welcome!
>>>
>>> I am cc'ing some potentially interested parties.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
>>>> interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
>>>> there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
>>>> "org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java API
>>>> (rabbit included)?
>>>
>>> Yes. The AMQP Working Group believes that a client API could be
>>> useful, for example a set of Java interface classes in a package
>>> org.amqp.*
>>>
>>> What do you think of the RabbitMQ Java and C# APIs?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
>>>
>>> It's a pleasure.
>>>
>>> alexis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> rabbitmq-discuss mailing list
>>>> rabbitmq-discuss@lists.rabbitmq.com
>>>> http://lists.rabbitmq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rabbitmq-discuss
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Hi All,
Thanks Alexis, Sebastian. I'm thinking the best way would be to create a
com.rabbitmq.client.spring (or "org.springframework.amqp") set of base
classes that parallel the org.springframework.jms classes and implement
a similar kind of MessageListener and MessageListenerContainer callback
model.
If it's not JMS, then the AMQP Rabbit stuff should not extend /
implement JMS interfaces. Rather we should create our own parallel
heirarchy. Thoughts / comments please?
Regs,
Dave
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 08:09 -0800, Sebastien PLISSON wrote:
> I attached a sample spring configuration.
>
> Sebastien
>
>
> On 2/21/08 7:48 AM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis.richardson@cohesiveft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sebastien
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Sebastien PLISSON <splisson@veodia.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I started integrating the communication with RabbitMQ server using Spring
> >> 2.5. I use the Qpid M1 java client to do that because it provides the JMS
> >> Interface usable by the Spring JMS classes.
> >> This configuration allows the usage of MessageListenerAdapter,
> >> MessageListenerContainer, JmsGateway, ...
> >
> > Thanks for that
> >
> > Could you show us any of your client classes or config files?
> >
> >
> >> I hope that one day we will have a full amqp spring template...
> >
> > David, over to you!
> >
> > alexis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi David
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
> >>>> alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system.
> >>>
> >>> Excellent
> >>>
> >>> Do you have any non-Java cases too? Or are you currently thinking of
> >>> a Java2Java messaging set-up?
> >>>
> >>> [ I ask because we've just released a .NET client, which will interop
> >>> with Java over AMQP, plus of course the STOMP and HTTP clients seem
> >>> useful to Java users. ]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ideally, I would
> >>>> like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
> >>>> supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
> >>>> implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
> >>>
> >>> This is eminently sensible.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
> >>>> time that provide this kind of integration?
> >>>
> >>> Not yet.. We did look at it, and it seems like a refactoring of the
> >>> Spring messaging classes using RabbitMQ's Java client, would be
> >>> straightforward.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
> >>>> wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
> >>>> within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
> >>>
> >>> That would be extremely welcome!
> >>>
> >>> I am cc'ing some potentially interested parties.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
> >>>> interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
> >>>> there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
> >>>> "org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java API
> >>>> (rabbit included)?
> >>>
> >>> Yes. The AMQP Working Group believes that a client API could be
> >>> useful, for example a set of Java interface classes in a package
> >>> org.amqp.*
> >>>
> >>> What do you think of the RabbitMQ Java and C# APIs?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
> >>>
> >>> It's a pleasure.
> >>>
> >>> alexis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> rabbitmq-discuss mailing list
> >>>> rabbitmq-discuss@lists.rabbitmq.com
> >>>> http://lists.rabbitmq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rabbitmq-discuss
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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David
Your first intuition is correct. This would be much better than the
second option, in the long run. We would love to work with folks on
this.
alexis
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:29 PM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks Alexis, Sebastian. I'm thinking the best way would be to create a
> com.rabbitmq.client.spring (or "org.springframework.amqp") set of base
> classes that parallel the org.springframework.jms classes and implement
> a similar kind of MessageListener and MessageListenerContainer callback
> model.
>
> If it's not JMS, then the AMQP Rabbit stuff should not extend /
> implement JMS interfaces. Rather we should create our own parallel
> heirarchy. Thoughts / comments please?
>
> Regs,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 08:09 -0800, Sebastien PLISSON wrote:
> > I attached a sample spring configuration.
> >
> > Sebastien
> >
> >
> > On 2/21/08 7:48 AM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis.richardson@cohesiveft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Sebastien
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Sebastien PLISSON <splisson@veodia.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I started integrating the communication with RabbitMQ server using Spring
> > >> 2.5. I use the Qpid M1 java client to do that because it provides the JMS
> > >> Interface usable by the Spring JMS classes.
> > >> This configuration allows the usage of MessageListenerAdapter,
> > >> MessageListenerContainer, JmsGateway, ...
> > >
> > > Thanks for that
> > >
> > > Could you show us any of your client classes or config files?
> > >
> > >
> > >> I hope that one day we will have a full amqp spring template...
> > >
> > > David, over to you!
> > >
> > > alexis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi David
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
> > >>>> alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system.
> > >>>
> > >>> Excellent
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you have any non-Java cases too? Or are you currently thinking of
> > >>> a Java2Java messaging set-up?
> > >>>
> > >>> [ I ask because we've just released a .NET client, which will interop
> > >>> with Java over AMQP, plus of course the STOMP and HTTP clients seem
> > >>> useful to Java users. ]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Ideally, I would
> > >>>> like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
> > >>>> supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
> > >>>> implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
> > >>>
> > >>> This is eminently sensible.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
> > >>>> time that provide this kind of integration?
> > >>>
> > >>> Not yet.. We did look at it, and it seems like a refactoring of the
> > >>> Spring messaging classes using RabbitMQ's Java client, would be
> > >>> straightforward.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
> > >>>> wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
> > >>>> within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
> > >>>
> > >>> That would be extremely welcome!
> > >>>
> > >>> I am cc'ing some potentially interested parties.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
> > >>>> interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
> > >>>> there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
> > >>>> "org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java API
> > >>>> (rabbit included)?
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes. The AMQP Working Group believes that a client API could be
> > >>> useful, for example a set of Java interface classes in a package
> > >>> org.amqp.*
> > >>>
> > >>> What do you think of the RabbitMQ Java and C# APIs?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
> > >>>
> > >>> It's a pleasure.
> > >>>
> > >>> alexis
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> rabbitmq-discuss mailing list
> > >>>> rabbitmq-discuss@lists.rabbitmq.com
> > >>>> http://lists.rabbitmq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rabbitmq-discuss
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
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I agree with you David, I'd prefer not use JMS but have Spring-amqp classes.
Regards,
Sebastien
On 2/21/08 1:36 PM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis.richardson@cohesiveft.com>
wrote:
> David
>
> Your first intuition is correct. This would be much better than the
> second option, in the long run. We would love to work with folks on
> this.
>
> alexis
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:29 PM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Thanks Alexis, Sebastian. I'm thinking the best way would be to create a
>> com.rabbitmq.client.spring (or "org.springframework.amqp") set of base
>> classes that parallel the org.springframework.jms classes and implement
>> a similar kind of MessageListener and MessageListenerContainer callback
>> model.
>>
>> If it's not JMS, then the AMQP Rabbit stuff should not extend /
>> implement JMS interfaces. Rather we should create our own parallel
>> heirarchy. Thoughts / comments please?
>>
>> Regs,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 08:09 -0800, Sebastien PLISSON wrote:
>>> I attached a sample spring configuration.
>>>
>>> Sebastien
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/21/08 7:48 AM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis.richardson@cohesiveft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sebastien
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Sebastien PLISSON <splisson@veodia.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I started integrating the communication with RabbitMQ server using Spring
>>>>> 2.5. I use the Qpid M1 java client to do that because it provides the JMS
>>>>> Interface usable by the Spring JMS classes.
>>>>> This configuration allows the usage of MessageListenerAdapter,
>>>>> MessageListenerContainer, JmsGateway, ...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for that
>>>>
>>>> Could you show us any of your client classes or config files?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I hope that one day we will have a full amqp spring template...
>>>>
>>>> David, over to you!
>>>>
>>>> alexis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
>>>>>>> alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Excellent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any non-Java cases too? Or are you currently thinking of
>>>>>> a Java2Java messaging set-up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ I ask because we've just released a .NET client, which will interop
>>>>>> with Java over AMQP, plus of course the STOMP and HTTP clients seem
>>>>>> useful to Java users. ]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideally, I would
>>>>>>> like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
>>>>>>> supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
>>>>>>> implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is eminently sensible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
>>>>>>> time that provide this kind of integration?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not yet.. We did look at it, and it seems like a refactoring of the
>>>>>> Spring messaging classes using RabbitMQ's Java client, would be
>>>>>> straightforward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
>>>>>>> wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
>>>>>>> within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be extremely welcome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am cc'ing some potentially interested parties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
>>>>>>> interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
>>>>>>> there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
>>>>>>> "org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java
>>>>>>> API
>>>>>>> (rabbit included)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. The AMQP Working Group believes that a client API could be
>>>>>> useful, for example a set of Java interface classes in a package
>>>>>> org.amqp.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think of the RabbitMQ Java and C# APIs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a pleasure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alexis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Great hack though! Don't know why I didn't think of it myself
Dave
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 13:41 -0800, Sebastien PLISSON wrote:
> I agree with you David, I'd prefer not use JMS but have Spring-amqp classes.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastien
>
>
> On 2/21/08 1:36 PM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis.richardson@cohesiveft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > David
> >
> > Your first intuition is correct. This would be much better than the
> > second option, in the long run. We would love to work with folks on
> > this.
> >
> > alexis
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:29 PM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Thanks Alexis, Sebastian. I'm thinking the best way would be to create a
> >> com.rabbitmq.client.spring (or "org.springframework.amqp") set of base
> >> classes that parallel the org.springframework.jms classes and implement
> >> a similar kind of MessageListener and MessageListenerContainer callback
> >> model.
> >>
> >> If it's not JMS, then the AMQP Rabbit stuff should not extend /
> >> implement JMS interfaces. Rather we should create our own parallel
> >> heirarchy. Thoughts / comments please?
> >>
> >> Regs,
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 08:09 -0800, Sebastien PLISSON wrote:
> >>> I attached a sample spring configuration.
> >>>
> >>> Sebastien
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2/21/08 7:48 AM, "Alexis Richardson" <alexis.richardson@cohesiveft.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Sebastien
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Sebastien PLISSON <splisson@veodia.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I started integrating the communication with RabbitMQ server using Spring
> >>>>> 2.5. I use the Qpid M1 java client to do that because it provides the JMS
> >>>>> Interface usable by the Spring JMS classes.
> >>>>> This configuration allows the usage of MessageListenerAdapter,
> >>>>> MessageListenerContainer, JmsGateway, ...
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for that
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you show us any of your client classes or config files?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I hope that one day we will have a full amqp spring template...
> >>>>
> >>>> David, over to you!
> >>>>
> >>>> alexis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi David
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:09 AM, David Peterson <peterson@orbitec.com.au>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We're currently evaluating RabbitMQ in a Java environment as an
> >>>>>>> alternative to a conventional JMS messaging system.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Excellent
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you have any non-Java cases too? Or are you currently thinking of
> >>>>>> a Java2Java messaging set-up?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [ I ask because we've just released a .NET client, which will interop
> >>>>>> with Java over AMQP, plus of course the STOMP and HTTP clients seem
> >>>>>> useful to Java users. ]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ideally, I would
> >>>>>>> like to "plug-in" rabbit in a manner similar to the way that JMS is
> >>>>>>> supported by Spring 2.x (i.e. a MessageContainer and MessageListener
> >>>>>>> implementation that allows "message-driven POJOs").
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is eminently sensible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My question is: are there any spring support classes for Rabbit at this
> >>>>>>> time that provide this kind of integration?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not yet.. We did look at it, and it seems like a refactoring of the
> >>>>>> Spring messaging classes using RabbitMQ's Java client, would be
> >>>>>> straightforward.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've already started prototyping a few ideas in this regard and I'm
> >>>>>>> wondering whether they would be welcome within the Java client, perhaps
> >>>>>>> within a a com.rabbitmq.spring.* package heirarchy?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That would be extremely welcome!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am cc'ing some potentially interested parties.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A second question: I note that Rabbit defines the various AMQP
> >>>>>>> interfaces inside the com.rabbitmq.* heirarchy. Do you know whether
> >>>>>>> there are any plans by the AMQP consortium to split this out into an
> >>>>>>> "org.amqp.*" heirarchy that could be implemented against by any Java
> >>>>>>> API
> >>>>>>> (rabbit included)?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes. The AMQP Working Group believes that a client API could be
> >>>>>> useful, for example a set of Java interface classes in a package
> >>>>>> org.amqp.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What do you think of the RabbitMQ Java and C# APIs?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's a pleasure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> alexis
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> rabbitmq-discuss mailing list
> >>>>>>> rabbitmq-discuss@lists.rabbitmq.com
> >>>>>>> http://lists.rabbitmq.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rabbitmq-discuss
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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